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As Iraq descends ever closer to civil war, no one doubts that George W. Bush's Iraq strategy has been an abysmal failure -- just as Gwynne Dyer argued it would be in both Ignorant Armies and Future: Tense. The question now is what will happen not just in Iraq but in the whole Middle East region once American troops are withdrawn. In The Mess They Made, Dyer predicts that tAs Iraq descends ever closer to civil war, no one doubts that George W. Bush's Iraq strategy has been an abysmal failure -- just as Gwynne Dyer argued it would be in both Ignorant Armies and Future: Tense. The question now is what will happen not just in Iraq but in the whole Middle East region once American troops are withdrawn. In The Mess They Made, Dyer predicts that the Middle East will go through the biggest shake up since the region was conquered and folded into the Ottoman Empire five centuries ago. In his trademark vivid prose, and in arguments as clear as his research is thorough, Dyer brings his considerable knowledge and understanding of the region to bear on the issue of how widespread the meltdown in the Middle East will likely be. In five chapters, Dyer points the way from present policies and events to likely future developments in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and in the various other countries of the region, not least of which is nuclear-armed Israel....

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Number of Pages : 280 Pages
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The Mess They Made: The Middle East After Iraq Reviews

  • John
    2019-04-30 15:51

    I bought my copy at a speaking engagement by Dyer. At the time, when he was saying the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq had already been lost, in fact the moment they began, it seemed all wrong. It was all right. Dyer has a way of saying things people don't want to hear, that tuen out to be the way it goes.

  • L. King
    2019-05-07 14:35

    Sometimes Spotty, Sometimes Spot OnI've heard Gwynn Dyer speak and have to say that I enjoy the slow native Newfoundland drawl of his voice that I hear in his writing. To some extent I find his background insights invaluable especially when he looks at the Arab World and identifies different Sunni and Shiah factions. He correctly sees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of the "Great Game of Nations" where the United State's main goal is the containment of Russia and China and the Arab/Israeli conflict is just a footnote when larger goals are afoot. I agree completely with his take on the "War on Terror" as being completely misguided and mismanaged and his assessment that the U.S. (up to the time of publication) had avoided falling into Bin Ladin's trap by essentially fighting the Afghan war by using wads of cash to bribe the appropriate war lords rather than putting troops on the ground. He then correctly (IMHO) castigates the Americans for not employing the same strategy in Iraq though if asked I think he ought to approve of some of the more recent changes under General Petraeus.I have less confidence in Dyer's ability to predict however. For example he points out that in order to develop nuclear weapons Iran would need to develop massive arrays of centrifuges. . Since publication Iran has done that, constructed and a missile system capable to delivery (but may lack accurate targeting - but you can be off with a nuclear warhead and still score a hit) as well as purchase a small fleet of submarines and the latest anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems from Russia. He is correct in pointing out that it is not only the Israelis who worry about Iraq - if one looks at a map one can see that the Saudi Royal Family and the Sunni majority are largely in the West of the Kingdom, and the Shiites are in the East, just across a narrow Persian/Arabian Gulf and that they are sitting on the known oil fields. He also sees the influence of Tehran on the Shiites of Iraq as only slightly problematic - Iran is not likely to invade but may chose to disrupt with support for a Shiah based Islamic revolution.The assessment of the Kurdish position between Turkey, Syria and Iraq is both fair and encouraging as the coverage of Syrian imperialism in Lebanon and the Alawite minority's hold on power which does have an element of American involvement I found to be enlightening.What I find disappointing is his chapter "Israel's Dilemma" which he bases on Arab misrepresentations of Zionists quotes. Thus Herzl's singular reference in his 1895 diary to "transference" is made to appear as it it applied to Palestinians, yet Herzl was writing about a potential Jewish homeland in South America at the time, it was purely a diary speculation never meant for publication and he never mentions it again - truly minor material made out to be more significant that it was. Dayan's quote from 1969 omits the phrase "we bought the land" and the context of his delivery which was to a group of students in defense of, not in opposition to the idea of Jews and Arabs living together. Similarly the "land without a people for a people without a land" meme is NOT a Jewish Zionist quote but came from Christian theologians of the previous century. Dyer swallows these and other statements whole, as he does the notion that Arafat "moved the world towards a two state solution" - this appears to be more an American solution and Arafat never viewed it as anything other than an staging process. Nor does his usual insight into asymmetrical warfare serve when he claims that Israel's purported nuclear arsenal make it immune from attack.I also agree with Trigg's review (above) regarding Dyer's misunderstanding of statistics, but I give it less weight. Dyer is a political journalist and people with his background are notoriously bad with figures.I give this book a mixed recommendation.

  • Norm Deguerre
    2019-04-25 16:33

    Absolute trash. To think that somebody who would turn out as flawed and poorly constructed as this book is a tenured history professor and biweekly column journalist is absurd.Look no further than the absolute dearth of citations, and the many unsubstantiated claims and predictions of the future passed off as undeniable fact.Dyer, this book, and your historiography is laughable.Quotes from a book review by Ethan Bronner that sum up this work:"-...Dyer's central argument, that nearly all the problems in the Middle East stem from Western and Israeli policies (the mess they made), is unconvincing and shoddily documented. For a writer who is both a journalist and historian - he writes a twice-weekly syndicated column and has a PhD in military and Middle Eastern history from the University of London - he has produced a work lacking both on-the-ground reporting and scholarly rigour.- Great sweeps of controversial history appear without a single footnote.- Sometimes in this diatribe, Dyer has a legitimate and important point. But he muddies it with unchecked (or at least unsourced) facts.- He states that there isn't anything particularly Shia about southern Lebanon. Has he been there and seen the huge posters of Iranian ayatollahs all over the southern Beirut suburbs? Has he observed the Shia rituals?-If he had listed his sources, he might have checked a few more things and avoided producing a book with enough errors and oddities to make it hard to take seriously."

  • TheIron Paw
    2019-05-09 11:38

    Dyer provided me with much background and interpetation about the current Irag war that I had missed (likely because its covered less than Afghanistan in the Canadian media). Current events books can go out of date quickly, and this one is a little behind current events due to the new presidential regime in the Whitehouse. However Dyer's interpretations and predictions remain valid (though he seemed to believe Bush was intent on invading Iran). I found the editing in the book to be a little below par - perhaps because of a rush to get a current events book published. Nevertheless, a worthwhile read, at least until we get an updated review of the Middle East situation as affected by Obama's policies.

  • Ashley Macgregor
    2019-05-15 12:44

    There's no doubt about the mess they made. This book provides an excellent background to the situation. Dyer's predictions are very close to what's happening now. Anyone interested in the Middle east needs to read this book.

  • Trudy Jaskela
    2019-05-20 14:30

    Author a respected journalist/author, born in Newfoundland, lived in Canada for many years, who now lives in Great Britain. I believe he researches well. This is his critique of the American-Iraqi war. Lots of truths contained in the book. Well writen, easy to read.

  • Marc Forget
    2019-05-04 12:42

    clears away a lot of the noise from the media, quick clean read.

  • Mary
    2019-05-06 15:49

    About the war in Iraq; well written

  • Omar El-Shamy
    2019-05-10 11:54

    كتاب جيد نظراً لأن النسخة الأولي منه كانت في عام 2008 ففي هذا الكتاب يتنبأ باكثير من الأحداث التى حدثت في وطننا العربي فيما يعرف بالربيع العربي

  • Sheri
    2019-04-30 18:43

    bought it for my husband for Valentine's Day.hoping to read it too.i saw Gwynne in person years ago. he's v. interesting.

  • Gary Maunder
    2019-04-23 13:55

    Dyer's book clarifies a chaotic situation. He discusses clear options for dealing with the mess of the Iraq war and its consequences for the United States, Great Britain and the rest of the world.

  • Michael
    2019-05-14 16:27

    my fav. canadian journalist, he's a genius